tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8189024.post111096852769498761..comments2023-09-10T07:34:26.310-07:00Comments on Buff's Tufftalk: Muscles Don't Necessarily Make the Gay Man, but They Can Help in His Transformationbuffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14220404369676535957noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8189024.post-1112698383556863282005-04-05T03:53:00.000-07:002005-04-05T03:53:00.000-07:00I definitely agree with all the comments posted. Y...I definitely agree with all the comments posted. <BR/>You guys hit a common chord. It's all about perception. The ideal man doesn't exist. Body image is who we are and what attracts us to other types of men is an individual<BR/>choice. Glad guys really don't shave their body hair and are hunky just the way they are. WOOFbuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220404369676535957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8189024.post-1112648760195470772005-04-04T14:06:00.000-07:002005-04-04T14:06:00.000-07:00This is something that I have noted for some time....This is something that I have noted for some time. Not only are Western men becoming more body conscious, but that we are exposed to a lot more imagesof ourselves then we were say 20 years ago. Further, these images areall of a similar sort - smooth, very well defined, no older than 30.<BR/>What disappoints me is the way that we have started to receive these messages as the ideal for men. Many of those models, like many men, are not naturally smooth, and yet more and more I see that gay men are peceiving this as how an ideal man should be. This is disappoiting.<BR/>On a personal level, I go to the gym, work out, try to stay fit. Frankly, this is mainly because I can attract a lot more men when I look half way decent. Peronally, I'm not that interested in a perfect body. I often go for guys who are skinny, or slightly overweight. In my experience a perfect body has no relationship with sexiness, skill or chemistry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8189024.post-1111349954223480412005-03-20T12:19:00.000-08:002005-03-20T12:19:00.000-08:00Interesting post...I'm not really surprised by the...Interesting post...<BR/><BR/>I'm not really surprised by the outcome of the study you mentioned. Few places in the world can match the West's preoccupation with outward appearances.<BR/><BR/>However, I'm not sure I'd have agreed with the study describing the quest for muscular appearances as dysmorphic disorder. To quote the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistics Manual), which is used in psychology/psychiatry to diagnose mental illness, one must meet three criteria to be diagnosable as suffering from body dysmorphic disorder:<BR/><BR/>1) Preoccupation with an imagined defect in appearance. If a slight physical anomaly is present, the person's concern is markedly excessive.<BR/><BR/>2) The preoccupation causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.<BR/><BR/>3) The preoccupation is not better account for by another mental disorder (such as an eating disorder or a personality disorder).<BR/><BR/>The 1st criteria says that he would have to see his lack of definition as a defect. I would venture a guess that most muscle-buffs don't look at themselves as defective... perhaps underdeveloped... but not defective. Something to work on isn't a defect... it's... well... something to work on... haha.<BR/><BR/>That 2nd criteria requires distress to be involved in some way. The men in question would have to have some aspect of their daily functioning disturbed *because* of their lack of muscle definition to fit this criteria. And we're not talking about hiding under a shirt at the gym here, either... haha. Unless he won't go out in public or tries to hide his body because he thinks it's not muscular enough (to the point where he cannot function in society), I would think BDD would be an overkill assessment.<BR/><BR/>Also, this disorder usually applies to people whose concern is rooted in what others are thinking and how others see their so-called "defect". An example would be someone who thinks his or her nose is so huge and deformed that other people are staring and talking about it all the time (and as you can guess, this disorder often leads people to develop paranoid personalities). I'm no expert on the drive to muscularity... do guys obsessed with getting bigger think other people see them as puny and weak?<BR/><BR/>I didn't read the study you mentioned, but from what you said about it, I think they left out two other explanations that might fit more people that BDD:<BR/><BR/>1) Self image satisfaction (wanting to look a certain way to make yourself happy)<BR/><BR/>2) Good ol' fashioned vanity (which, depending on the way it's channeled, isn't always a bad thing)<BR/><BR/>Great post, though, and definitely an interesting study that I might try to look into myself. It's always interesting to read studies like the one you mention to compare other researcher's conclusions with those of your own. Well, at least it is for nerdy study-types like myself... haha!Noneyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225726302717701348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8189024.post-1110987002001606822005-03-16T07:30:00.000-08:002005-03-16T07:30:00.000-08:00Buff: Very interesting piece you wrote there ...Buff:<BR/><BR/> Very interesting piece you wrote there buddy. I had just wrote a blog entry on my site because I felt I have been a gym slacker this week. Thanks for your post. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a V shape as opposed to looking pregnant (like most typically straight Americans men do). I don't want a tool shed over my dickie doo!Brettcajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263469086123677892noreply@blogger.com